Al mackey is lying again, I am not surprised —

This time Mackey is lying about Black Confederates, well maybe not so much lying as just not telling the whole truth. Is that better/

Let’s take a look at his first untruth. HORACE KING Mackey says he supported the Union. So? I have read Robert E. lee , Jeff Davis, Stonewall Jackson and most Confederate supported the Union as a whole, that doesn’t mean they fought for the Union. They simply wanted to see their country united as one. Same as Horace king. Mackey also tries to say the at he was conscripted by the Confederates. Again I say so. Both armies conscripted men to fill their ranks. I can easily prove that the Union army conscripted slaves against their will. Challenge me Mackey if you dare. See this link for more on Horace King.

Amos Rucker, Mackey refers to a photo but yet shows no photo. I won’t argue that point one way or the other. Mackey says Rucker cannot be a soldier because he was a slave. So Mackey show us the law that says slaves cannot be soldiers. Can you? Of course not.

Bill Yopp Mackey says that Bill Yopp was owned by Thomas Yopp so they could not be friends. I sure would love to have the power to go back hundreds of years and tell you the feelings and emotions of men living in a given era. That must be a fantastic power. Mackey again says Bill Yopp cannot be a soldier because he is a slave. Where is your proof Mackey?

“The next group is a list of people the video claims were musicians. While soldiers could be used as musicians, musicians were not automatically soldiers.”

Can you prove that musicians were not part of the Confederate Army Mackey. Show us some credible proof. You are only expressing your opinions.

“We next see a list of names of people who were supposed to be nurses: Joe Fox, Nelson Jones, Eliza Morgan, and Ellen Morris. Putting aside the question of the accuracy of this list, a woman was not allowed to be a soldier, and these people, if they were used as nurses, were not soldiers. We don’t know if they willingly supported the confederate cause or were enslaved people who were ordered to do this job.”

Oh boy this is good Confederate nurses didn’t support the Confederacy. They were not part of the army? Again any credible sources are lacking. Women did serve the Confederate army and where POWS. At the end of this article I shall post one such woman. then YOU MACKEY, can tell us all about this woman.

Steve Eberhart, aka “Steve Perry” Again Mackey claims because this man was a body servant he could not be a soldier. Well it appears Andy Hall has spent some time researching this man at https://deadconfederates.com/2011/11/11/everyone-laughs-both-at-and-with-steve/ I encourage you to read Hall’s entire post and note what happened to this man master. Now I challenge either Hall or Mackey to prove this man “Steve Perry did not carry any weapons, prove he did not go into battle with his
master.

The last two names are Eli Pickett and Ned Green. Green was apparently a musician and Pickett was apparently a slave who received a pension. That was most probably a servant’s pension. (Here http://www.mdah.ms.gov/new/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/pensioners.pdf)

Ah Mackey as I have said before, you have provided no source stating a musician was not a soldier. You have failed to prove a slave couldn’t carry a gun or kill a Yankee. What is the problem? Now Mackey states this clickable link (Here) leads to a slave pension. No that is not a pension application for a slave or a white man. It is a story. It is from Mississippi. If you have no idea what a pension record looks like how can you write about one?

To view the Mississippi negroes pensions go to http://opac2.mdah.state.ms.us/queries/blackconfedlist.php or go to this SHAPE website which I have recorded the Mississippi pensions as well as other states. I also have free and slave records listed http://negrosingrey.southernheritageadvancementpreservationeducation.com/page.php?41

This is from Mackey’s so-called slave pension. Note what it really says. There is too much unknow. That is proven by mackey’s and halls commentary.

The applications from black Confederate pensioners tell us much about their service that we did not know, but they are silent in regard to the service of African Americans who died before they could apply, lived in the wrong state, or openly expressed the desire to have a say in the government under which they lived. Although almost three thousand applications from black pensioners shed some light on what they did to support the Confederate war effort, these documents fail to answer many of the most important questions raised about African American service with the Confederate army, leaving one of the great stories of the Civil War still untold.

As usual Mackey is just spreading his hate and lies, he fails miserably to prove any of his points.

I promised to post a woman Confederate at the end of this article. This is so Mackey and his friends can educate all of us ignorant “neo-Confederates” . here it is—-

Jenny– Negro Girl– Received at the Myrtle Street Prison the 13th day of Feb. 1864 from Peter Coring, US officer. Sent forward from Prov. Mar. Genl on the first day of February 1864. By order of Col. Marsh.

Jenny “negro Girl”
Signed William Lonergan–Keeper
(Unfiled Papers and Slips Belonging in Confederate Compiled Service Records)

Remember Mackey says women cannot be soldiers. SO———

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Lincoln Facilitates Western Virginia Secession

Lincoln Facilitates Western Virginia Secession
“Lincoln was not opposed to secession if it served his political purposes. This fact is proven when he orchestrated the secession of western Virginia from the rest of the State and set up a puppet government of the new State of West Virginia, in Alexandria, Virginia, right across the Potomac River from Washington, D.C.

His own attorney General, Edward Bates, believed that this act was unconstitutional, arguing the obvious – that States must first exist before being accepted into the Union. Neither the president or Congress had the constitutional authority to create States, for a truly free State can only be created by its people.

This was another patently undemocratic or dictatorial act that, once again, Lincoln rationalized in the name of “saving democracy.” Lincoln ignored the arguments of his attorney general as well as the words of the Constitution, but benefited in 1864 by additional electoral votes and congressional representation that was completely controlled by the Republican party in Washington, not the people of western Virginia.

Interestingly, the legislation establishing West Virginia allowed for the people of the new State to vote on a gradual emancipation program. This was Stephen Douglas’s position in the Lincoln-Douglas debates – that the new territories should be permitted to vote on whether or not they wanted slavery.”
(The Real Lincoln, A New Look at Abraham Lincoln, His Agenda and an Unnecessary War, Thomas J. DiLorenzo, Forum, 2002, excerpts pp. 148-149)

Northern Science and Racial Inferiority

“The Civil War in America stands as a watershed in nineteenth-century anthropometric developments. The body measurements collected during the war years marked the culmination of efforts to measure the various “races” or “species” of man and derive a semblance of understanding as to specific race types.

Both the Provost Marshal General’s Bureau and the United States Sanitary Commission, a semi-official organization made up of “predominantly upper class . . . patrician elements which had been vainly seeking a function in American society” during the Civil War, became the pioneer forces in the wide scale measurement of the soldier during the war years.
The war marks a watershed . . . because nearly all subsequent nineteenth-century institutionalized attitudes of racial inferiority focused on the war anthropometry as a basis for their belief. Ironically, the war which freed the slave also helped to justify racial attitudes of nineteenth-century society.

[A situation] which became extremely important to the anthropometric section of the Sanitary Commission, grew out of the July 17, 1862, Congressional authorization for Lincoln “to employ as many persons of African descent as he may deem necessary and proper for the suppression of the Rebellion.” The Act permitted Lincoln to use the Negroes in “any military or naval service that they may be found competent.” Eventually over 180,000 Negroes were inducted into the Federal service.

The instruments used by the Commission – andrometer, spirometer, dynamometer, facial angle, platform balance, and measuring tape – were intended to include “the most important physical dimensions and personal characteristics.”
During the second phase of examination, which lasted to the end of the war, a staff of twelve examiners drew statistics from 15,900 [soldiers and prisoners] . . . The examination of Indians, mostly Iroquois, was made while they were held for a time as prisoners of war near Rock Island, Illinois.

Those [doctors] who did offer remarks gave surprisingly similar conclusions [about Negro recruits]. The Negro in America, because of his contact with higher civilization, had lost most of his “grosser peculiarities.” This factor, along with his good physical endowment, made him a capable soldier. Though a good soldier, and perhaps a good citizen, wrote Dr. E.S. Barrows of Iowa, the Negro “never can be as well qualified as he who by nature possesses greater physical perfection and greater mental endowments.”

(Civil War Anthropometry: The Making of a Racial Ideology; John S. Haller, Civil War History, A Journal of the Middle Period, John T. Hubbell, editor, Kent State University Press, Vol. XVI, No. IV, December 1970, excerpts pp. 309-315)

Lincoln Has No Right to a Soldier in Fort Sumter

Lincoln Has No Right to a Soldier in Fort Sumter:

“The house of every man is his castle, and he may defend it to the death
against all aggressors. When a hostile hand is raised to strike a blow,
he who is assaulted need not wait until the blow falls, but on the
instant may protect himself as best he can. And where constitutional
rights of a people are in jeopardy, a kindred right of self-defense
belongs to them. Although revolutionary in its character, it is not the
less a right.

Wendell Phillips, abolitionist as he was, in a speech made at New
Bedford on the 9th of April, 1861, three days before the bombardment of
Fort Sumter, fully recognized this right. He said:

“Here are a series of States girding the Gulf, who think that their
peculiar institutions require that they should have a separate
government. They have a right to decide that question without appealing
to you or me. A large body of the people, sufficient to make a nation,
have come to the conclusion that they will have a government of a
certain form. Who denies them the right?

Standing with the principles of ’76 behind us, who can deny them the
right? What is a matter of a few millions of dollars or a few forts? It
is a mere drop in the bucket of the great national question. It is
theirs as much as ours. I maintain, on the principles of ’76, that
Abraham Lincoln has no right to a soldier in Fort Sumter.”

Neither were the Southern men of ’61 fighting for money. And they too
were deeply embittered, not against a mother country, but against a
brother country. The Northern people had published invectives of the
most exasperating character broadcast against the South in their
speeches, sermons, newspapers and books. The abolitionists had
proceeded from words to deeds and were unwearied in tampering with the
slaves and carrying them off. The Southern people.could get no security
that the provisions of the Constitution would be kept either in letter
or in spirit, and this they demanded as their right.

Devotion to their State first of all, a conviction of that paramount
obligation – in case of any conflict of allegiance – was due not to the
Union but to the State, has been part of the political creed of very
many in the South ever since the adoption of the Constitution.

(Baltimore and the 19th of April, 1861, George William Brown, Johns
Hopkins Press, 2001, pp. 26-28)

Correcting Some More Lies by Mackey

Well folks I goat say Mackey MAY have finally got one on me. This would be the quote at https://studycivilwar.wordpress.com/2018/08/24/taking-down-history/—- Duty is, then, the sublimest word in our language.’ Gen. R.E.Lee

It appears to me Mackey may have used this as a source to dispute this quote by Gen. R. E. Lee

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-american-studies/article/most-famous-thing-robert-e-lee-never-said-duty-forgery-and-cultural-amnesia/D2FB98509DF2B5C08176C6B0E64C10B1

I saw no reasons posted why they think this letter is forged, but these are several sources which I will not chase down. Mackey does mention in his blog post this may refer to Kant’s Duty. I assume that if one Union soldier could read this book, so could a Southerner. I also if Curtis was familiar enough with his fathers handwriting to know if he wrote the letter or not. Surely Mrs. Lee did. There is no mention in either Mackey’s post or the source I listed if a handwriting expert graded the letter to see if was authentic. Another thing that should be looked at is the statue of Silent Sam was erected in 1913, the first article, according to Mackey, to dispute this quote was 1917. Even if the quote or letter is not authentic, it was not a deliberate attempt to change history. Perhaps one of the 3 returning senior class veterans returning home related this story.

“In April of 1865, as the war ended, the 9th Michigan Cavalry rode into Chapel Hill and occupied the university and the town for more than two weeks. Students began trickling back to the university and a two-day commencement was held for the graduating class. The only out-of-town guests were a small detail of the 10th Ohio Regiment left behind by Union General Smith B. Atkins. The graduating class of 1865 had only four members, three of whom were returning veterans.”
https://exhibits.lib.unc.edu/exhibits/show/patriotism/civil-war

Mackey goes to say how this was Gen. R.E. Lee that is mentioned on the plaque, actually no name is mentioned. This “commander” could have been anyone from the commanding general down to a squad leader who spoke these words.

Next we see Mackey attacking another memorial, This one about the Battle of Five Forks. Here Mackey says this— “It more than doubles the number of Federal soldiers while understating the number of confederate soldiers.”

Is that a fact Mackey? If so why didn’t you post your sources? While it is not easy to find the total number of either side and different websites give different numbers here is a website that supports what is on the monument— “Who fought in the Battle of Five Forks?

Union Major General Philip H. Sheridan commanded 22,000 men from his own Cavalry Corps as well as the Fifth Army Corps of the Army of the Potomac.

Confederate Major General George E. Pickett commanded 10,600 men from his own infantry division, two brigades detached from Anderson’s Division, and the cavalry divisions of Fitzhugh Lee, W.H.F. Lee, and Thomas Rosser

Both forces were part of much larger armies operating in the Siege of Petersburg, but both were far enough away from the main forces that they were operating independently.”

http://stonesentinels.com/less-known/five-forks/facts/

A comparison of the forces for both sides can be found here—-

http://stonesentinels.com/less-known/five-forks/armies/

Anyone can plainly see the Union forces greatly outnumber the Confederates.

Well Mackey you don’t like how Stonewall Jackson is portrayed on his statue. I guess you are really proud of your doughboy body? You lift a lot of cake and ice cream???

Now we really do not care what those bigoted idiots post, it is apparent that they know little or nothing about history. Sound like you Mackey!!!

Speaking of Racist Confederate monuments–

Well Al Mackey is a busy man bit of a bigot too. If it was raining today I would be outside getting some chores done, but that is besides the point. Since I have some time. I’ll take a quick at another one of Mackey’s lying blog posts. This one is at https://studycivilwar.wordpress.com/2018/08/26/the-racist-legacy-of-many-confederate-monuments/

He starts right in with his bigotry– Note: “Accepting the arbitrament of war, they preserved the Anglo-Saxon civilization of the South, and became master builders in a re-united country.” What this says is after the Civil War, confederate veterans across the South were white supremacist terrorists, and it celebrates them for that. It celebrates them for murdering, raping, and whipping African Americans and white Republicans all over the South.

No Mackey the memorial says nothing like that. This is a complete lie you can’t back up

Going on Mackey cherry picks a quote from the Leigh Robinson speech starting at — Slavery in the South rested upon the natural supremacy

Yes Mr. Robinson does say that but he also says this which Mackey failed to post— Page 16 read starting here–“The real inequity” sure makes a lot of difference in the entire speech.

Next Mackey wants us to notice the word nigger (this is used in historical context) as if it was part of Mr. Robinsons speech. As I read the article it was a statement by one Prof Freeman, who I have no idea who that would be. You can read this on page 23. Yes like Mackey says you can read the entire speech at this link https://archive.org/details/souvenirofunveil00conf I encourage you to do so. It makes a difference when a person reads it for themselves rather than have someone tell you what they want you to believe.

Next he cites historian Brian Fennessy as a source. I have one question for Mackey, is Mr. Fennessy completely biased and bigoted like most of your sources tend to be? Why should we believe either one of you?

Oh I love this by Mackey— “We know that the highest type of Anglo-Saxon manhood and of Anglo-Saxon civilization may be found in the States of the South.”

To that I say a hearty HELL YEAH!!!!!

That is until people like Mackey moved in!!!!!!

Confederate Monuments: Why Every American Should Honor

Confederate Soldiers and Their Memorials
by Lochlainn Seabrook

Why is the Left targeting Confederate monuments for removal and destruction? Ignorance, social spite, and political expediency! But the Liberal’s sinister efforts to eradicate American history do more than just offend the living. They are an insult to the honor and memory of one of the most courageous and patriotic serviceman the world has ever known: the Confederate soldier.

If you are a truth-seeker and want to know why Confederate monuments should be treated as national treasures, you owe it to yourself to read the deeply researched works of world acclaimed Southern historian Colonel Lochlainn Seabrook, starting with his highly topical book, Confederate Monuments: Why Every American Should Honor Confederate Soldiers and Their Memorials.

Conveniently divided into three sections, the first debunks the fake history fabricated by the Left to conceal the facts about Lincoln’s War and turn America against the South. Here we learn about the true history of the conflict, the early tradition of nationwide U.S. support for Confederate soldiers, the unique origins of Southern patriotism, the legal rights of the Confederate dead, and the many stringent preservation laws surrounding their memorials. The second section provides a massive pictorial sampling of the thousands of Confederate monuments that dot the American landscape, arranged alphabetically by state and city.

The book ends with a fascinating appendices section comprising 19th-Century speeches, addresses, articles, and lists related to the Confederacy and her awe-inspiring granite landmarks.

Throughout this densely illustrated work, the award-winning author sprinkles scores of additional Confederate images from the Victorian Era, along with dozens of poems, quotes, and genuine inscriptions from Confederate statues, all which add further educational value to this already powerful and informative pictorial primer. This is the only book of its kind, and the only one you will ever need to combat the Yankee myths and Liberal lies surrounding the phony “controversial” issue of Confederate soldiers and their precious stone memorials.

Colonel Seabrook confidently predicts that thousands of new Confederate monuments will go up in the future. Because once the historical truths revealed in his book are more widely known, President McKinley’s charge that all Americans should share in honoring the Confederate dead will be taken seriously, and patriots everywhere will be clamoring to help fund, build, and raise as many memorials as possible to our country’s heroic men in gray! Available in paperback and hardcover.

Lochlainn Seabrook’s other titles include: Abraham Lincoln Was a Liberal, Jefferson Davis Was a Conservative: The Missing Key to Understanding the American Civil War; Lincoln’s War: The Real Cause, the Real Winner, the Real Loser; The Unholy Crusade: Lincoln’s Legacy of Destruction in the American South; The Great Yankee Coverup: What the North Doesn’t Want You to Know About Lincoln’s War; Victorian Confederate Poetry; Confederacy 101: Amazing Facts You Never Knew About America’s Oldest Political Tradition; Confederate Flag Facts: What Every American Should Know About Dixie’s Southern Cross; Women in Gray: A Tribute to the Ladies Who Supported the Southern Confederacy; Everything You Were Taught About American Slavery is Wrong, Ask a Southerner!; Honest Jeff and Dishonest Abe: A Southern Children’s Guide to the Civil War; The Constitution of the Confederate States of America Explained; and A Rebel Born: A Defense of Nathan Bedford Forrest.

https://www.amazon.com/Confederate-Monuments-American-Soldiers-Memorials/dp/1943737622/ref=as_sl_pc_qf_sp_asin_til?tag=souhernewvie-20

I received this in an email. I do not know the author of the wonderful article, but I thought it was worth posting. The article can be found at the link provided above. Here is a bio of Lochlainn Seabrook

http://www.lochlainnseabrook.com/