Rob Baker is so blinded by his bigotry and hate he cannot see what is in front of him. Now he has some of his boys show their ignorance by supporting Bakers post. http://historicstruggle.wordpress.com/2014/11/13/what-indicates-that-he-is-a-soldier/
If one is inclined to believe Baker this man is not a soldier because no unit or rank is noted on the card—
I admit the card does lack information about this man, that is exactly why I posted it. I wanted to see if Baker would lay his bigotry aside and just say for once he may be a Confederate soldier Lack of Information is no proof he is not a soldier. He does not, but in fact he doubles down on his bigotry .
We know Carey is from Mississippi. So what is he doing wandering around Georgia in 1864, the date he was admitted to the hospital? Was this well after the Emancipation Proclamation. Didn’t Atlanta fall about September or October of 1864?? So what was his reason for being in Georgia??? More than likely he was under some sort of military command. One scenario is that he may have been delivering supplies to the Confederate Army for his master. There are many files of Negroes and Whites doing this. If that was the case more than likely he would be listed have a Confederate Citizens File form, which he is not. A CCF card will be posted later.
The fact that he was returned to duty is another clue of military connection. Has anyone ever read about a civilian being returned to duty. I can just see it now. Yes mam I am Sgt. Purvis and I return you husband to duty at your house. Get real Baker.
Next we go to the upper left hand corner of the card not the “c”, that really mans nothing as far as I can determine. It appears to be the alphabetical order in which things are filed or copied. His unit is missing but since he is from Mississippi he is more than likely with a Mississippi unit.
His owners name is Jonathan McGee. That really means nothing either. He may or may not be a Confederate soldier. A quick search of The CWSS at– http://www.nps.gov/civilwar/soldiers-and-sailors-database.htm does not give us a definite Jonathan McGee serving in a Miss. Confederate unit. There are several “J” possibilities so I will not entirely rule that out.
There are more indicators of Carey being under a military command than not.
At this point I think we should look at the YANKEE definition of a soldier
THE PRIVATE SOLDIER.
6. In the fullest sense, any man in the military service who receives pay, whether sworn in or not, is a soldier, because he is subject to military law. Under this general head, laborers, teamsters, sutlers, chaplains, &c. are soldiers. In a more limited sense, a private soldier is a man enlisted in the military service to serve in the cavalry, artillery, or infantry. He is said to be enlisted when he has been examined, his duties of obedience explained to him, and after he has taken the prescribed oath.
General August Kautz’s, USA,”Customs of Service, for Non-Commissioned Officers and Soldiers” (1864), page. 11
There you go. He is a soldier.
Now as we scroll down Baker’s page we come to Bakers first lie.
First off, I’m not poking fun at “Negro” men and women who “served” the Confederacy…or were forced to serve the Confederacy rather.
Sure your were Baker, anyone reading your Confederate Soldier Found posts knows exactly what you were doing. You are a liar. Since you and Oliver demand proof show me using this card where this man was forced to serve. The fact he is a slave is not proof. Are you trying to tell me that the Yankees did not force men to serve their cause. Heck let’s take something easy for you. How about the new York Draft riots? You are welcome to go to the SHAPE website “Yankee Atrocities” at http://confederatepows.southernheritageadvancementpreservationeducation.com/page.php?6 and serach that website for negroes being forced into the yankee army.
You didn’t ruffle my feathers by disagreeing with me, your ignorance ruffles my feathers. The remainder of post and most all of the comments except Andy Hall and Chris Shelley are nothing but bigoted opinions. Even Dick at a pretense of “knowing” something just takes on a wild goose chase from website to website. And ol’ J. R. at the bottom. Just how ignorant can you get boy???
Now Baker as I said before, I made this a little muddy by design. One reason I knew how you would jump on this card and I knew the most likely people who would post comments and the content of their comments. I was not disappointed. Another reason, searching Confederate records is not a cut and dried science. The lack of information in these records crosses racial, state, unit and command lines. Sometimes you will hit a jackpot, sometimes not. If I had wanted to prove my point right off the bat I could have just as easily posted this card —
Now as promised here is a Confederate Citizens file. This is typical of most all cover pages.
This is more proof that Carey was subject to military rules. It is more proof of the ignorance and bigotry of Rob Baker.