Part of the Immortal 600. William T. Jones
Is Al Mackey biased in his view of history. In my opinion yes, but that is a determination the reader will have to make, I just post the facts.
Not much a comment on the Wesley Norris post Mackey makes, in fact I’ll use Mackey’s post toshow you the credibility of his post at https://studycivilwar.wordpress.com/2017/10/18/was-robert-e-lee-a-woman-whipper/
Let’s save some time e and just read Mackey’s last paragraph which says—
Postwar lost cause writings sought to whitewash slavery from the confederacy. It looks as if Lee and his worshipers tried to do the same thing with Lee. We may never know for sure if Lee had a woman runaway slave whipped, though it would have been standard punishment for running away, and Lee in many ways acted like a typical slave owner. We do know, however, that postwar denials to the contrary notwithstanding, Lee was a supporter of the slave system, which to me adds credibility to Wesley Norris’ claims.
Ah Mackey I suggest you do some research before you post your biased ranting. You should have visited this website https://www.nps.gov/arho/learn/historyculture/slavery.htm and you would have found this little gem — Lee officially freed the slaves on December 29, 1862.
When it comes to Black Confederates Al Mackey just has no clue about history. In this case I am referring to his comments about Dick Poplar. I’ll admit Mackey makes some convincing arguments in his blog post at https://studycivilwar.wordpress.com/2017/10/16/the-scv-keeping-the-black-confederate-myth-alive/#comments
I am not gonna go over each and every one of Mackey’s points and prove them wrong. I am just going to refresh the readers minds that Mackey is very biased in his attitude about Confederates in general and BLACK CONFEDERATES in particular. To verify this all one has to do is either read Mackey’s blog or review this blog where I disprove a good many of Mackey’s post.
To Mackey’s particular post on Dick Poplar, I will say this, Mackey offers no evidence that Dick Poplar did not serve in the Confederate army, he does not prove Mr. Poplar was not armed or saw combat. In fact Mackey mostly just uses census records and obituaries to make his point, neither are conclusive in their facts.
If you as a reader want to get a bit nore info on this man, Dick Poplar, I suggest reading this webpage at — http://www.plpow.com/POW_Blacks.htm#DickPoplar
Using this webpage “In Defense of Gen. Forrest”
(http://www.flatfenders.com/scv/Forrest%20Defense.htm) as a reference I went to the listed website for an accurate transcription. I have posted this transcription at http://southernheritageadvancementpreservationeducation.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?2008776
You will see some additional comments by Col. Mike Kelly of the 37th Texas(reenactment) group.
I received this in an email, I HAVE NOT verified any statements made. I DO NOT HAVE THE TIME to research each statement. I AM posting this here in hopes that others can add more credible info.
Something to consider–
Russ Vaughan submits the following:
Evidence is turning up from, of all places, the Southern Poverty Law Center, as well as Breitbart and others, that this character, Jason Kessler, who organized the suspicious and supposed Alt-Right demonstration in Charlottesville, Va. that blew up in everyone’s face, is a cunning lefty holdover from the Occupy Wall Street movement and a former Barack Obama supporter. I smell Soros money, sabotage, and Democrat dirty tricks here.
I’ve been suspicious of the nature of the violence at this supposed Alt-Right demonstration since the news first began breaking. It is no secret that radical elements in the Democrat left have been routinely utilizing violence when it suits their purposes. We also know via secret tapings by Project Veritas that the Democratic Party has a semi-official director of dirty ops, Dick Creamer, who hires, trains, and emplaces professional disruptors to encounter, engage, and infiltrate conservative demonstrations to foment violence, assuring that the demonstrations then become the targets of negative media attention – naturally, against the conservative side. Creamer was caught on videotape boasting about his nefarious capabilities when he thought he was in friendly company.
So here we now have another blown supposedly conservative demonstration, where violence erupts and people are killed, and guess who just happens to be a ringleader of the various ultra-right to Alt-Right organizations ranging from KKK and neo-Nazis to the kind of patriotic folks who might go to a Flag Day celebration! Um, that would be our vaporous political will o’ the wisp, Jason Kessler, whose Occupy activities may well have put him in operational cahoots with high-level Democrat operatives. And owing to the leniency of Virginia open carry laws, too many of Jason’s followers just had to parade their personal armories in all their camo combat gear, showing off their minuteman firepower. My first reaction at seeing those clowns strutting down the street like they were in Mosul was, like that of many of my fellow NRA members and military veterans, shaking my fist and yelling at the TV, “No! No! No, you idiots! No!” And that kind of award-winning stupidity makes me wonder if the head planner for the event, Jason Soros…er, Kessler, didn’t have that firepower demonstration all lined up and ready to go precisely to make those right-wing tools look just like the fools they were being, while scaring the bejeezus out of the lefties, blacks, and MSM twerps.
There’s still not enough evidence on the actual violence, other than the schizophrenic kid who ran over the woman, to make any kind of assessment as to who did what in the confrontations between the right-wing demonstrators and the surprisingly strong counter-demonstration. I have to wonder if this Kessler fellow, strong Barack Obama-supporter that he is, had a hand in making sure his Alt-Right marchers were clearly guaranteed to encounter a strong crowd of riled up counter-protesters as well. The reporting of Kessler’s background, as well as that of Charlottesville mayor and Democrat activist Mike Signer and Vice Mayor Wes Bellamy, has convinced me that Charlottesville was a Democratic Party black operation, planned, organized, and carried out to its successful conclusion, to make the media portray all these conservative whites as stupid, racist, and violent. I believe that it was done by this soulless young man, who succeeded in selling himself to the dumb-bunny right-wingers as one of them.
MORE PROOF CHARLOTTESVILLE WAS A FALSE FLAG OP
“This is being driven by forces of evil that are beyond what normal people can think about.” – Representative Louis Gomert, (R-TX)
In the following clip from Fox News, Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) talks about what happened on August 12 in Charlottesville, placing special emphasis on the fact that demonstrators for the Ku Klux Klan and Black Lives Matter arrived at the event on the same busses!
He also stresses the need for the appointment of a special counsel to investigate who paid for sending all those different groups to Charlottesville, and who ordered the stand-down of the police.
OBVIOUSLY YOUTUBE CENSORED THIS, SO HERE IT IS:
Many thanks to Vlad Tepes for uploading this video: http://vid.me/rBZbW
And the mere fact it is censored on Youtube proves Youtube is part of the “forces of evil that are beyond what normal people can think about.”
Alexander Stephens– V. P. Confederate States of America
What I Really Said in the Cornerstone Speech
Alexander Hamilton Stephens
As for my Savanna speech, about which so much has been said and in regard to which I am represented as setting forth “slavery” as the “corner-stone” of the Confederacy, it is proper for me to state that that speech was extemporaneous, the reporter’s notes, which were very imperfect, were hastily corrected by me; and were published without further revision and with several glaring errors. The substance of what I said on slavery was, that on the points under the old Constitution out of which so much discussion, agitation, and strife between the States had arisen, no future contention could arise, as these had been put to rest by clear language. I did not say, nor do I think the reporter represented me as saying, that there was the slightest change in the new Constitution from the old regarding the status of the African race amongst us. (Slavery was without doubt the occasion of secession; out of it rose the breach of compact, for instance, on the part of several Northern States in refusing to comply with Constitutional obligations as to rendition of fugitives from service, a course betraying total disregard for all constitutional barriers and guarantees.)
I admitted that the fathers, both of the North and the South, who framed the old Constitution, while recognizing existing slavery and guarnateeing its continuance under the Constitution so long as the States should severally see fit to tolerate it in their respective limits, were perhaps all opposed to the principle. Jefferson, Madison, Washington, all looked for its early extinction throughout the United States. But on the subject of slavery – so called – (which was with us, or should be, nothing but the proper subordination of the inferior African race to the superior white) great and radical changes had taken place in the realm of thought; many eminent latter-day statesmen, philosophers, and philanthropists held different views from the fathers.
The patriotism of the fathers was not questioned, nor their ability and wisdom, but it devolved on the public men and statesmen of each generation to grapple with and solve the problems of their own times.
The relation of the black to the white race, or the proper status of the coloured population amongst us, was a question now of vastly more importance than when the old Constitution was formed. The order of subordination was nature’s great law; philosophy taught that order as the noraml condition of the African amongst European races. Upon this recognized principle of a proper subordination, let it be called slavery or what not, our State institutions were formed and rested. The new Confederation was entered into with this distinct understanding. This principle of the subordination of the inferior to the superior was the “corner-stone” on which it was formed. I used this metaphor merely to illustrate the firm convictions of the framers of the new Constitution that this relation of the black to the white race, which existed in 1787, was not wrong in itself, either morally or politically; that it was in conformity to nature and best for both races. I alluded not to the principles of the new Government on this subject, but to public sentiment in regard to these principles. The status of the African race in the new Constitution was left just where it was in the old; I affirmed and meant to affirm nothing else in this Savannah speech.
My own opinion of slavery, as often expressed, was that if the institution was not the best, or could not be made the best, for both races, looking to the advancement and progress of both, physically and morally, it ought to be abolished. It was far from being what it might and ought to have been. Education was denied. This was wrong. I ever condemned the wrong. Marriage was not recognized. This was a wrong that I condemned. Many things connected with it did not meet my approval but excited my disgust, abhorrence, and detestation. The same I may say of things connected with the best institutions in the best communities in which my lot has been cast. Great improvements were, however, going on in the condition of blacks in the South. Their general physical condition not only as to necessaries but as to comforts was better in my own neighbourhood in 1860, than was that of the whites when I can first recollect, say 1820. Much greater would have been made, I verily believe, but for outside agitation. I have but small doubt that education would have been allowed long ago in Georgia, except for outside pressure which stopped internal reform.
Recollections of Alexander H. Stephens edited by Myrta Lockett Avary
Originally published by Sunny South Publishing Company and Doubleday, Page & Company, 1910
Louisana State University Press, Baton Rouge, 1998, pages 172-175.
At the time I posted this info I did not have the book. It may be found online at https://books.google.com/books?id=NMEEAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA468&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=3#v=onepage&q=savana%20speech&f=false
This is an important fact was was not npoted at the time of posting–
Recollections of Alexander H. Stephens: His Diary Kept when a Prisoner at Fort Warren, Boston Harbour, 1865; Giving Incidents and Reflections of His Prison Life and Some Letters and Reminiscences