A Historian. Really????

Jimmy Dick and Rob Baker go on about how they are educators and historians. On my post at https://coldsouthernsteel.wordpress.com/2014/11/17/what-indicates-that-he-is-a-soldier/ you will see I reference a blog post by Baker in which he makes the statement that “negroes were forced to serve the Confederacy. Farther down the page, Dick seconds that statement. Neither one would offer proof that any Negro was forced to serve the confederacy. I am not saying it didn’t happen, I know for a fact men were forced to serve — on both sides. Heck as far as that goes I received my own draft notice. That being the case, Baker and Dick are only telling a portion of history. Their version of history is a lie, biased and bigoted. To verify what I have saying, one should read —

http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/Union_Army.aspx

or

http://civilwarhome.com/conscription.htm

for some numbers.

Being that Jimmy Dick likes to call me a liar because I said there were Negroes who served as soldiers in the Confederacy, I shall prove him wrong. Baker’s and Dick’s whole game is based on a play of words not historical fact. Let me go on record as saying this, I did post records that were very scarce in the information department. It was a deliberate move in order to expose Baker’s bigotry. The fact that Dick, and a couple of others, jumped on the wagon with Baker is a bonus. They refused to give these men and women even the slightest acknowledgment that they served in the Confederate forces even though information proved otherwise. Baker was even so kind as to post Carey pension record. It should be noted that many of the Negro cards lack a great deal of information.

Now I don’t get mad at Dick’s insults, it just serves to prove his ignorance. What I do is post fact to prove my point. These cards will clearly should the bigotry, ignorance and lies both Baker and Dick have been passing out as history Choose at random and for no particular reason

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No the argument will not be center around his job. If you want to play that angle I will simply point you to the cards of the white men I have already posted.

To be honest I am no historian, I would be insulted to be called such since Baker and his associates have so soiled the title. Call me a researcher since I have vied more than 20,000 records of men, women and children who have served the confederacy in one way or another.

NO INSULTS WILL BE TOLERATED –PERIOD

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10 thoughts on “A Historian. Really????

      • I addressed everything and proved you wrong.

        Carey was a soldier, “Negro” was a soldier. and the cards I presented prove this man to be a soldier. I proved from the onset that your “Negro Soldier Found” was based on ignorance and bigotry. Oh and BTW slaves and laborers did come under the authority of the Confederate War Department.

        THE BEST THING YOU CAN DO AT THIS POINT IS ADMIT NEGROES WERE CONFEDERATE SOLDIERS

        Let it be noted I am not gonna argue with you just to listen to you whine. If your next post doesn’t contain some documented facts you are done. Clear????

      • No, the cards you found are index cards. They are not primary source documents. If you’re going to play historian, at least do it correctly.

      • The fact you keep arguing that point just shows your ignorance and bigotry. These cards are accepted by all reserachers as summaries from the orginial records. Anyone can plainly read the word copist on most of these cards. There will be no more posts of this matter posted.

  1. I just want to wish you and yours a wonderful Happy Thanksgiving! I am sure you are celebrating this 151st anniversary of President Lincoln’s establishment of Thanksgiving. Here is his statement on the event:

    Washington, D.C.
    October 3, 1863

    By the President of the United States of America.

    A Proclamation.

    The year that is drawing towards its close, has been filled with the blessings of fruitful fields and healthful skies. To these bounties, which are so constantly enjoyed that we are prone to forget the source from which they come, others have been added, which are of so extraordinary a nature, that they cannot fail to penetrate and soften even the heart which is habitually insensible to the ever watchful providence of Almighty God. In the midst of a civil war of unequaled magnitude and severity, which has sometimes seemed to foreign States to invite and to provoke their aggression, peace has been preserved with all nations, order has been maintained, the laws have been respected and obeyed, and harmony has prevailed everywhere except in the theatre of military conflict; while that theatre has been greatly contracted by the advancing armies and navies of the Union. Needful diversions of wealth and of strength from the fields of peaceful industry to the national defence, have not arrested the plough, the shuttle or the ship; the axe has enlarged the borders of our settlements, and the mines, as well of iron and coal as of the precious metals, have yielded even more abundantly than heretofore. Population has steadily increased, notwithstanding the waste that has been made in the camp, the siege and the battle-field; and the country, rejoicing in the consiousness of augmented strength and vigor, is permitted to expect continuance of years with large increase of freedom. No human counsel hath devised nor hath any mortal hand worked out these great things. They are the gracious gifts of the Most High God, who, while dealing with us in anger for our sins, hath nevertheless remembered mercy. It has seemed to me fit and proper that they should be solemnly, reverently and gratefully acknowledged as with one heart and one voice by the whole American People. I do therefore invite my fellow citizens in every part of the United States, and also those who are at sea and those who are sojourning in foreign lands, to set apart and observe the last Thursday of November next, as a day of Thanksgiving and Praise to our beneficent Father who dwelleth in the Heavens. And I recommend to them that while offering up the ascriptions justly due to Him for such singular deliverances and blessings, they do also, with humble penitence for our national perverseness and disobedience, commend to His tender care all those who have become widows, orphans, mourners or sufferers in the lamentable civil strife in which we are unavoidably engaged, and fervently implore the interposition of the Almighty Hand to heal the wounds of the nation and to restore it as soon as may be consistent with the Divine purposes to the full enjoyment of peace, harmony, tranquillity and Union.

    In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and caused the Seal of the United States to be affixed.

    Done at the City of Washington, this Third day of October, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-three, and of the Independence of the Unites States the Eighty-eighth.

    By the President: Abraham Lincoln

    William H. Seward,
    Secretary of State

    Let us all rejoice that the Union overcome the treachery and traitorous attempt by slave owners to break apart the Union that so many brave men and women had sacrificed for during the American Revolution.

    Ciao!

    • Jimmy,

      That is a good post. Thank you more like this and we could be on almost decent terms. Note I took the liberty of editing, by making bold print, one small portion of your post.

      Now for your reading enjoyment I I offer you this Thanksgiving tidbit, also with bold print—-

      No. 6. Munfordville, Ky., September 17, 1862.

      I. The general commanding congratulates his army on the crowning success of their extraordinary campaign which this day has witnessed. He is most happy and proud to acknowledge his indebtedness to his gallant troops for their patient submission under the privations of an arduous march and the fortitude with which they have endured its hardships. They have overcome all obstacles without a murmur, even when in the prosecution of seemingly unnecessary labor, and have well sustained by their conduct the unsullied reputation of the Army of the Mississippi. With such confidence and report as has been so far exhibited nearly all things become possible. The capture of this position, with its garrison of 4,000 men, with all their artillery, arms, munitions, and stores, without the loss of a man, crowns and completes the separate campaign of this army. We have in conjunction with the Army of Kentucky, redeemed Tennessee and Kentucky, but our labors are not over. A powerful foe is assembling on our front and we must prepare to strike him a sudden and decisive blow. A short time only can there fore be given for repose, when we must resume our march to still more brilliant victories. The general commanding asks of his army only a continuance of the same confidence and regard for discipline in order to insure the most complete success.

      II. To-morrow, September 18, having been specially set aside by our President to be observed as a day of thanksgiving and prayer to Almighty God for the manifold blessings recently vouchsafed to us and to our cause, the general commanding earnestly recommends to the army to devote the day of rest allotted to them to the observance od this sacred duty. Acknowledging our dependence at all times upon a merciful Providence, it is meet that we should not only render thanks for the general success of our cause and of this campaign, but should particularly manifest our gratitude for a bloodless victory instead of a success purchased with the destruction of life and property.

      BRAXTON BRAGG,

      General, Commanding.

      GENERAL ORDERS, HDQRS. LEFT WING, ARMY OF THE MISS.,

      No.-. Near Munfordville, Ky., September 17, 1862.

      Research partner research.

  2. Oh and while we are at it, your statement that Cary was a soldier is as usual incorrect. Your evidence proves that he was not. The people of the south stated so. Now you can make your argument all you want, but the only thing you are doing is making an incorrect statement based on what you want the past perceived as, not as it actually was. This is known as presentism and you are mangling history pretty badly in doing that.

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